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	<title>Comments on: OpenSUSE Drops ReiserFS; Sign of Things to Come?</title>
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		<title>By: knifemonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>knifemonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>benchmark, test, and abuse.
this is the only way that you will find out which filesystem is better. I and many users dont trust the creators or supporting companies to carry out these tests either, they have to be done independantly. So, test every common and concievable read/write process on all filesystems on the same system, test every concievable filesystem task with big files, small files, big partitions, small partitions, split partitions, cross partitions, patched filesystems etc, and then while it is in the middle of something really important, pull the plug out and boot back in, then while it&#039;s booting pull it out again and reboot, do this a set number of times. then when it boots in, run a filesystem check with that filesystems best filesystem checker cleaner program and then when all of that is done, reboot and see how much damage is done. document everything, send 10000w power spikes to the computer, leave nothing to speculation. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY!
we dont care what novell is doing or whether hans spent time in jail (although naturally we hope that is behind him) the only thing we care about is ultimately, which filesystem is best for given situation, settle it now so that this debate doesnt troll about any longer giving the flamers and side-takers anything more worth bitching about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>benchmark, test, and abuse.<br />
this is the only way that you will find out which filesystem is better. I and many users dont trust the creators or supporting companies to carry out these tests either, they have to be done independantly. So, test every common and concievable read/write process on all filesystems on the same system, test every concievable filesystem task with big files, small files, big partitions, small partitions, split partitions, cross partitions, patched filesystems etc, and then while it is in the middle of something really important, pull the plug out and boot back in, then while it&#8217;s booting pull it out again and reboot, do this a set number of times. then when it boots in, run a filesystem check with that filesystems best filesystem checker cleaner program and then when all of that is done, reboot and see how much damage is done. document everything, send 10000w power spikes to the computer, leave nothing to speculation. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY!<br />
we dont care what novell is doing or whether hans spent time in jail (although naturally we hope that is behind him) the only thing we care about is ultimately, which filesystem is best for given situation, settle it now so that this debate doesnt troll about any longer giving the flamers and side-takers anything more worth bitching about.</p>
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		<title>By: truth machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>truth machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So far, my SuSE 10.2 install is more stable on reiserfs than on ext3. I’m using an AMD Turion 64×2.&quot;

You have no idea what&#039; you&#039;re talking about; using reiserfs vs. ext3 has nothing to do with system stability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So far, my SuSE 10.2 install is more stable on reiserfs than on ext3. I’m using an AMD Turion 64×2.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have no idea what&#8217; you&#8217;re talking about; using reiserfs vs. ext3 has nothing to do with system stability.</p>
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		<title>By: Poops McGhee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poops McGhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, my SuSE 10.2 install is more stable on reiserfs than on ext3. I&#039;m using an AMD Turion 64x2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, my SuSE 10.2 install is more stable on reiserfs than on ext3. I&#8217;m using an AMD Turion 64&#215;2.</p>
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		<title>By: JJMacey</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJMacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;m just posting here because I think that I&#039;ve seen this argument before.

Adler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just posting here because I think that I&#8217;ve seen this argument before.</p>
<p>Adler</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pascal: you say the reiserfs (reiser3) can be &quot;hot shrunk&quot; (reduced in size while mounted). This would be a great capability, but the tools won&#039;t do this: resize_reiserfs as shipped in SuSE 10.1 and FC 6 cannot do this, and I am not aware of any utility that will. The problem is that a block which is in used by a currently-open file may be moved during a shrink, and chasing that through the kernel is a horrendous job.

To quote from the man page:
&quot;The resize_reiserfs program allows to grow a reiserfs on-line if there is a free space on block device.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pascal: you say the reiserfs (reiser3) can be &#8220;hot shrunk&#8221; (reduced in size while mounted). This would be a great capability, but the tools won&#8217;t do this: resize_reiserfs as shipped in SuSE 10.1 and FC 6 cannot do this, and I am not aware of any utility that will. The problem is that a block which is in used by a currently-open file may be moved during a shrink, and chasing that through the kernel is a horrendous job.</p>
<p>To quote from the man page:<br />
&#8220;The resize_reiserfs program allows to grow a reiserfs on-line if there is a free space on block device.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reiser is better.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reiser is better.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 03:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gatuus said &lt;i&gt;&quot;So I think that you comment is OUTDATED an is sleeping in the past 2 years.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Are you trying to tell me that ext3 has finally caught up to Reiser3,... well, it still hasn&#039;t.

I know ext4 is a desperate attempt to include features from Reiser4, just like ext2 added journaling because it was embarrassed by Reiser3.

And, I have run some bonnie++ comparisons myself.

To see how much &lt;b&gt;better&lt;/b&gt; Reiser3 was, than ext2, when Reiser3 was introduced, see this article:

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs.html

&lt;i&gt;&quot;In general, ReiserFS outperforms ext2 in nearly every area, but really shines when it comes to handling small files,... ReiserFS truly is an excellent filesystem.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Daniel Robbins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gatuus said <i>&#8220;So I think that you comment is OUTDATED an is sleeping in the past 2 years.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Are you trying to tell me that ext3 has finally caught up to Reiser3,&#8230; well, it still hasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I know ext4 is a desperate attempt to include features from Reiser4, just like ext2 added journaling because it was embarrassed by Reiser3.</p>
<p>And, I have run some bonnie++ comparisons myself.</p>
<p>To see how much <b>better</b> Reiser3 was, than ext2, when Reiser3 was introduced, see this article:</p>
<p><a href="http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-fs.html</a></p>
<p><i>&#8220;In general, ReiserFS outperforms ext2 in nearly every area, but really shines when it comes to handling small files,&#8230; ReiserFS truly is an excellent filesystem.&#8221;</i> Daniel Robbins.</p>
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		<title>By: Reiser is better.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reiser is better.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gatuus:

Well gatuus, do you have comparisons on both filesystems?
Well gatuus, do you have real numbers, real facts?
Well gatuus, you donâ€™t.

&lt;b&gt;Why don&#039;t you do as you preach and supply some.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gatuus:</p>
<p>Well gatuus, do you have comparisons on both filesystems?<br />
Well gatuus, do you have real numbers, real facts?<br />
Well gatuus, you donâ€™t.</p>
<p><b>Why don&#8217;t you do as you preach and supply some.</b></p>
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		<title>By: antiriad</title>
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		<dc:creator>antiriad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hans reiser is not the current mantainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hans reiser is not the current mantainer.</p>
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		<title>By: gatuus</title>
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		<dc:creator>gatuus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno if your comment comes can be appreciated as an actual, recent, updated comment.

Facts:

You didn&#039;t mention that the creator, mantainer, etc. of ReiserFS is in jail right now. Hans Reiser.

You didn&#039;t get the facts neither.
You just can&#039;t say that ext3 is better than ReiserFS because your point of view.

Do you have comparitions on both filesystems?
Real numbers, real facts?
No you don&#039;t.

So I think that you comment is OUTDATED an is sleeping in the past 2 years.

Saludos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno if your comment comes can be appreciated as an actual, recent, updated comment.</p>
<p>Facts:</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t mention that the creator, mantainer, etc. of ReiserFS is in jail right now. Hans Reiser.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t get the facts neither.<br />
You just can&#8217;t say that ext3 is better than ReiserFS because your point of view.</p>
<p>Do you have comparitions on both filesystems?<br />
Real numbers, real facts?<br />
No you don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So I think that you comment is OUTDATED an is sleeping in the past 2 years.</p>
<p>Saludos!</p>
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		<title>By: Reiser is better.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reiser is better.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;the code for ReiserFS is, for lack of a better term, stagnating.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

So what? It will remain one of the best filesystems available.

You show incredible bias by using the term &quot;stagnating.&quot; You could just have easily said that it will remain the great filesystem that it presently is.

Reiser4 will however continue to get better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;the code for ReiserFS is, for lack of a better term, stagnating.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>So what? It will remain one of the best filesystems available.</p>
<p>You show incredible bias by using the term &#8220;stagnating.&#8221; You could just have easily said that it will remain the great filesystem that it presently is.</p>
<p>Reiser4 will however continue to get better.</p>
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